Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:45:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:45:18 -0400 Received: from bitmover.com ([192.132.92.2]:26083 "EHLO bitmover.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:45:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:45:14 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Rik van Riel Cc: Pavel Machek , Florian Weimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [OFF TOPIC] BK license change Message-ID: <20020429124514.O15730@work.bitmover.com> Mail-Followup-To: Larry McVoy , Rik van Riel , Pavel Machek , Florian Weimer , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020426042242.A294@toy.ucw.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org FYI - You won't see me replying to this because he's joined some others in my procmail filter, enabling me to get more work done. I love procmail. Besides, Rik is doing a great job, thanks Rik! To underscore Rik's point: it took 4 years of at least 6 day/week efforts by a team that varied in size from 3-8 engineers to get BitKeeper where it is today. Pavel is welcome to try and do better, but he sure as hell isn't going to do it in his spare time. Nobody is, it's a much harder problem than it looks like. I really wish people would try it and find out. Maybe I'm wrong, in which case we can all get on to doing something more fun. On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 04:34:30PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Fri, 26 Apr 2002, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > In short: go build a better answer, and until you do it, how about > > > easing off on the "BK is evil corporate software" mantra a bit? It's > > > > BK *is* evil corporate software, with unique trapdoor capabilities, and > > with unique ability to take away rights from user any time it wants. > > BK is made available to us at no cost; BK is saving Linus and > Marcelo a lot of work, making it possible for them to merge more > patches into the kernel. > > If you only spent 10% of the energy you spent complaining on > making a bitkeeper replacement, maybe you'd realise that Larry > is making a very useful contribution. > > regards, > > Rik > -- > Bravely reimplemented by the knights who say "NIH". > > http://www.surriel.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com/ -- --- Larry McVoy lm at bitmover.com http://www.bitmover.com/lm - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/