Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:00:42 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:00:41 -0400 Received: from louise.pinerecords.com ([212.71.160.16]:30475 "EHLO louise.pinerecords.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:00:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:00:35 +0200 From: tomas szepe To: Sandy Harris Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The tainted message Message-ID: <20020429200035.GA26567@louise.pinerecords.com> In-Reply-To: <1019926629.2045.698.camel@phantasy> <1020099580.5131.14.camel@w-beattie1> <20020429171516.GA25377@louise.pinerecords.com> <20020429184331.3230f5ab.spyro@armlinux.org> <20020429174232.GA25502@louise.pinerecords.com> <20020429192107.GA26369@louise.pinerecords.com> <3CCD93E6.F637706A@storm.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-OS: Linux/sparc 2.2.21-rc3-ext3-0.0.7a SMP (up 7 days, 14:34) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > > >> thie warning should be: > > > >> > > > >> Warning: Module %s is not open source, and as such, loading it will make > > > >> your kernel un-debuggable. Please do not submit bug reports from a kernel > > > >> with this module loaded, as they will be useless, and likely ignored. > > > > > > > >Very good! I'd only change the tense to "The non-opensource module %s is > > > >about to be loaded, which will make your kernel impossible to debug," so > > > >that it's crystal clear that the message is not a failure notification. > > > > > > Pschologically it would be better to phrase it as a postive statement. > > > > > > Warning: Module %s is not open source, and as such, loading it will > > > make your kernel un-debuggable. Before reporting problems to > > > Linux-kernel, please replicate the problem without the module loaded. > > > > You're right. And, hmmm, tell you what.. I also like your version because > > it makes no statements whatsoever about vendor support, or support from > > anyone else than the people on linux-kernel. > > > > Now, would anyone attempt to sum up all the points made here and come up > > w/ something like a "final-draft" proposal? > > Warning: Source code for module %s is not publicly available. Problems > with a kernel that has loaded this module can be debugged only by someone > with access to the module source. Before reporting a problem to the Linux > kernel mailing list, please replicate the problem without the module loaded. Indeed, this would certainly do much better than the current caption. "What say you, Mr. ModutilsMaintainer?" T. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/