Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752451Ab0FFSoZ (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:44:25 -0400 Received: from smtp-out.google.com ([74.125.121.35]:47984 "EHLO smtp-out.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751020Ab0FFSoW (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:44:22 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type; b=B0A9Ec8qW7j2Z9X45ifsQtmJgZLim0gYAZ7QvSlXxMoJU/J478KIDZAUn69aAsIi7 MMa9ekK+urqndXfc+aNEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1275834706.7227.545.camel@mulgrave.site> <1275844114.7227.552.camel@mulgrave.site> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 11:44:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration From: Brian Swetland To: Thomas Gleixner Cc: James Bottomley , Alan Cox , Florian Mickler , Vitaly Wool , =?UTF-8?B?QXJ2ZSBIasO4bm5ldsOlZw==?= , Arjan van de Ven , tytso@mit.edu, Peter Zijlstra , "H. Peter Anvin" , LKML , Neil Brown , Linux PM , Ingo Molnar , Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linus Torvalds , Felipe Balbi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1407 Lines: 33 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote: >> >> Right, so the sooner we make it easier for the drivers to use the kernel >> as their main repository, the better. > > Yep, the fastest way is to provide two stub inlines in pm.h and let > the driver flood come in. As mentioned previously, we didn't know this was an option (stubs without an implementation behind them). If it is, and thus we can simplify the driver merging process short-term while sorting out a long-term implementation or replacement for suspend blockers, then I think we're making real progress. There is no reason that drivers that support suspend blockers cannot (or should not) support regular suspend/resume or runtime suspend/resume, so that shouldn't be a worry. The various operating modes complement, not compete with each other (we want the lowest possible power consumption in all states, be that fully active, fully suspended, or anything in between -- I think everyone involved agrees with this). > I think all of us involved in that can do with a break, where we sit > back, calm down and rethink w/o time pressure. Total agreement. Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/