Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752780Ab0FFTPQ (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:15:16 -0400 Received: from smtp-out.google.com ([216.239.44.51]:3702 "EHLO smtp-out.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751266Ab0FFTPO convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:15:14 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=beta; d=google.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to: cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HSlV1wt+rtCHSYgjz0rtP1VVxETJA2XJ3xXFY2wxYH0M8nTMqGptwL3Wa5GHDh04N AHhtWiNkA+MxpGYKNLpzw== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100606190525.GA20517@infradead.org> References: <1275834706.7227.545.camel@mulgrave.site> <1275844114.7227.552.camel@mulgrave.site> <20100606190525.GA20517@infradead.org> Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:15:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration From: Brian Swetland To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: James Bottomley , Thomas Gleixner , Alan Cox , Florian Mickler , Vitaly Wool , "Arve Hj?nnev?g" , Arjan van de Ven , tytso@mit.edu, Peter Zijlstra , "H. Peter Anvin" , LKML , Neil Brown , Linux PM , Ingo Molnar , Linux OMAP Mailing List , Linus Torvalds , Felipe Balbi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1563 Lines: 31 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 12:08:34PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: >> Well, we sort of tried this when Greg pulled some of them into the >> staging tree.  The problem is that without the annotations, the drivers >> are still different, and patches won't apply, so, unsurprisingly, they >> didn't get improved or even maintained. > > Err, the biggest pile in staging was meta drivers like the binder or > some oom killer magic which are flat out braindead and wrong and have > no chance going into mainline anyway.  That's something different from > real hardware drivers, although a few of those made it into staging as > well if I remember correctly. I was shocked when Greg pulled the binder driver and some of the other "generic" android drivers into staging, because it was always my assumption that nobody upstream would want them. We did get some bugfixes for the binder driver (thanks!) but the general reaction was pretty much the same as yours here. I then was relatively unsurprised when it was dropped (we find it useful, upstream finds it useless, not much else to say). The various SoC peripheral drivers are, I suspect, much less contentious (modulo suspend blocker usage and any necessary kernel style cleanup). Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/