Subject: Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration
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On Sun, 2010-06-06 at 12:58 -0700, Brian Swetland wrote:
> Somebody will have to broker a deal with the frameworks/apps folks to
> get rid of the binder.  They like it a lot.  Of course if somebody
> built a drop-in replacement for the userspace side that didn't require
> a kernel driver, had the same performance characteristics, solved the
> same problems, etc, they could probably make an argument for it (or
> just provide it as a drop-in replacement for people who want a more
> "pure" linux underneath Android, even if we didn't pick it up). 

So what's up with this Binder stuff, from what I can see its just
yet-another-CORBA. Why does it need a kernel part at all, can't you
simply run with a user-space ORB instead?

I really don't get why people keep re-inventing CORBA, there's some
really nice (free) ORBs out there, like:

  http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/TAO.html


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