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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration
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--- On Mon, 6/7/10, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> So what's up with this Binder stuff, from what I can see
> its just
> yet-another-CORBA. Why does it need a kernel part at all,
> can't you
> simply run with a user-space ORB instead?
> 
> I really don't get why people keep re-inventing CORBA,


That made me laugh.  Do you realize that one
of the earliest objections to CORBA was "why do
people keep re-inventing RPC" ...  :)

(Simple answer:  the existing stuff didn't solve
enough of the right problems ... and it was easier
(in a political sense) to come up with something
new than to try fixing DCE or ONC (or whatever).
Similar answers may still apply ... last I looked
at CORBA, it didn't standardize desktop integration
(or cell-phone equivalents), and the pure user-space
versions suffered slowdowns when looking up object
bindings.


> there's some really nice (free) ORBs out there,

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