Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754329Ab0FGUBL (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:01:11 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:60619 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753785Ab0FGUBI (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:01:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:00:15 -0700 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Matt Mackall Cc: Flavio Leitner , netdev@vger.kernel.org, David Miller , Cong Wang , Jay Vosburgh , Flavio Leitner , Andy Gospodarek , Neil Horman , Jeff Moyer , lkml , bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, bonding-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [PATCH] netconsole: queue console messages to send later Message-ID: <20100607130015.15555744@nehalam> In-Reply-To: <1275940248.26597.70.camel@calx> References: <24059.1275417767@death.nxdomain.ibm.com> <1275938692-26997-1-git-send-email-fleitner@redhat.com> <1275940248.26597.70.camel@calx> Organization: Linux Foundation X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1450 Lines: 34 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:50:48 -0500 Matt Mackall wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-07 at 16:24 -0300, Flavio Leitner wrote: > > There are some networking drivers that hold a lock in the > > transmit path. Therefore, if a console message is printed > > after that, netconsole will push it through the transmit path, > > resulting in a deadlock. > > This is an ongoing pain we've known about since before introducing the > netpoll code to the tree. > > My take has always been that any form of queueing is contrary to the > goal of netpoll: timely delivery of messages even during machine-killing > situations like oopses. There may never be a second chance to deliver > the message as the machine may be locked solid. And there may be no > other way to get the message out of the box in such situations. Adding > queueing is a throwing-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater fix. > > I think Dave agrees with me here, and I believe he's said in the past > that drivers trying to print messages in such contexts should be > considered buggy. > Because it to hard to fix all possible device configurations. There should be any way to detect recursion and just drop the message to avoid deadlock. -- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/