Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:58:45 +0200
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, tytso@mit.edu, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
       Arve Hj?nnev?g <arve@android.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
       "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
       Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
       Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@nokia.com>,
       Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
       LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       Florian Mickler <florian@mickler.org>,
       Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
       Linux PM <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
       Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
       James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
       Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
       Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: suspend blockers & Android integration
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Hi!

> >> We started here because it's possibly the only api level change we have --
> >> almost everything else is driver or subarch type work or controversial but
> >> entirely self-contained (like the binder, which I would be shocked to see
> >> ever hit mainline). [...]
> >
> > So why arent those bits mainline? It's a 1000 times easier to get drivers and
> > small improvements and non-ABI changes upstream.
> >
> > After basically two years of growing your fork (and some attempts to get your
> > drivers into drivers/staging/ - from where they have meanwhile dropped out
> > again) you re-started with the worst possible thing to merge: a big and
> > difficult kernel feature affecting many subsystems. Why?
> 
> Because a large number of our drivers depend on it.

The dependencies are trivial. Last time I checked, you had about
150KLoC drivers, with about 100 lines depending on wakelock support --
I know, I cleaned it up from staging.

The changes required for merging 150KLoC will be definitely much
bigger than 100 lines...

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