Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754143Ab0FUMLR (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:11:17 -0400 Received: from THUNK.ORG ([69.25.196.29]:40129 "EHLO thunker.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752040Ab0FUMLP (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:11:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 08:10:58 -0400 From: tytso@mit.edu To: markgross@thegnar.org Cc: Alan Stern , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux-pm mailing list , Matthew Garrett , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Dmitry Torokhov , Arve =?iso-8859-1?B?SGr4bm5lduVn?= , Neil Brown , mark gross <640e9920@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: Avoid losing wakeup events during suspend Message-ID: <20100621121058.GF6199@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: tytso@mit.edu, markgross@thegnar.org, Alan Stern , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Linux-pm mailing list , Matthew Garrett , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Dmitry Torokhov , Arve =?iso-8859-1?B?SGr4bm5lduVn?= , Neil Brown , mark gross <640e9920@gmail.com> References: <201006202350.27143.rjw@sisk.pl> <20100621061345.GF9735@gvim.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100621061345.GF9735@gvim.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on thunker.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1238 Lines: 28 So where are we at this point? Discussion had completely died down for a while, and it's picked up again, but it's not clear to me that we're any closer to reaching consensus. There's been one proposal that we simply merge in a set of no-op inline functions for suspend blockers, just so we can get let the drivers go in (assuming that Greg K-H believes this is still a problem), but with an automatical removal of N months (N to be decided, say 9 or 12 or 18 months). My concern is that if we do that, we will have simply kicked the ball down the road for N months. Another approach is to simply merge in no-op functions and not leave any kind of deprecation schedule. That's sort of an implicit admission of the fact that we may not reach consensus on this issue. Or we could simply ship the patches as-is to Linus after he gets back from vacation and ask him for a thumbs up or thumbs down vote, which might settle things once and for all. How do we go forward from here? - Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/