Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753132Ab0FWOkJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:40:09 -0400 Received: from bar.sig21.net ([80.81.252.164]:45946 "EHLO bar.sig21.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751824Ab0FWOkG (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:40:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:39:40 +0200 From: Johannes Stezenbach To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" Cc: Matthew Garrett , Jussi Kivilinna , Maxim Levitsky , David Quan , Bob Copeland , "Luis R. Rodriguez" , ath5k-devel@venema.h4ckr.net, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel , Jonathan May , Tim Gardner Subject: Re: [ath5k-devel] [PATCH v2] ath5k: disable ASPM Message-ID: <20100623143940.GA5424@sig21.net> References: <20100622165213.GA21842@srcf.ucam.org> <20100622172545.GA22680@srcf.ucam.org> <20100622175058.GA23499@srcf.ucam.org> <20100622184426.GA24546@srcf.ucam.org> <20100622193143.GA17803@sig21.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-21-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Spam-21-Report: No, score=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8,AWL=0.722,BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=no Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2153 Lines: 49 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:38:03PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: > >> > >> Does CONFIG_PCIEASPM provide a way for the user to modifiy > >> the settings at runtime? > > > > You can tune ASPM settings at runtime, regardless of CONFIG_PCIEASPM. See: > > > > http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/mcgrof/aspm/enable-aspm > > http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/ASPM > > > >> I have a Samsung N130 netbook which has a BIOS setting > >> called "CPU Power Saving Mode". ?When enabled it activates > >> ASPM L1 and L0s for the ethernet chip (Realtek RTL8102e, 100Mbit) > >> and the PCIE bridge (with the BIOS setting off it's just L1). > >> The result is that the ethernet througput is reduced to 25Mbit/s. > > > > L0s is not going to buy you much gains, getting at least L1 will > > however. L0s is just a further enhancement. I recommend you test by > > enabling L1 and L0s, check how longer your battery lasts and then test > > again with just L1. Then test without both L1 and L0s. > > So defaults should always be sane and you should not have to play with > this stuff, unless you're a hacker, or are testing something for > development purposes. Tweaking ASPM settings is not something a user > should have to worry about. Period. OK, let me put the question another way: If enabling ASPM comes with a performance penalty (which is not unexpected, there is usually a tradeoff between performance and power consumption), do you think a boot time option (pcie_aspm=) or compile time option (CONFIG_PCIEASPM) is the right user interface? But meanwhile I found that CONFIG_PCIEASPM has a runtime interface, /sys/module/pcie_aspm/parameters/policy. http://lwn.net/Articles/266585/ I have not tested it on my N130 yet. Johannes -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/