Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754464Ab0FZXaf (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:30:35 -0400 Received: from mga09.intel.com ([134.134.136.24]:37972 "EHLO mga09.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751045Ab0FZXae (ORCPT ); Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:30:34 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,488,1272870000"; d="scan'208";a="633959108" Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 07:30:29 +0800 From: Wu Fengguang To: Michael Kerrisk Cc: Andi Kleen , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-mm@kvack.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH] [31/31] HWPOISON: Add a madvise() injector for soft page offlining Message-ID: <20100626233029.GA8820@localhost> References: <20100619132055.GK18946@basil.fritz.box> <20100619133000.GL18946@basil.fritz.box> <20100619140933.GM18946@basil.fritz.box> <20100619195242.GS18946@basil.fritz.box> <20100620071446.GA21743@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3746 Lines: 87 On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 09:18:52PM +0800, Michael Kerrisk wrote: > Hi Fengguang, > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Wu Fengguang wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 02:19:35PM +0800, Michael Kerrisk wrote: > >> Hi Andi, > >> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Andi Kleen wrote: > >> >> .TP > >> >> .BR MADV_SOFT_OFFLINE " (Since Linux 2.6.33) > >> >> Soft offline the pages in the range specified by > >> >> .I addr > >> >> and > >> >> .IR length . > >> >> This memory of each page in the specified range is copied to a new page, > >> > > >> > Actually there are some cases where it's also dropped if it's cached page. > >> > > >> > Perhaps better would be something more fuzzy like > >> > > >> > "the contents are preserved" > >> > >> The problem to me is that this gets so fuzzy that it's hard to > >> understand the meaning (I imagine many readers will ask: "What does it > >> mean that the contents are preserved"?). Would you be able to come up > >> with a wording that is a little miore detailed? > > > > That is, MADV_SOFT_OFFLINE won't lose data. > > > > If a process writes "1" to some virtual address and then called > > madvice(MADV_SOFT_OFFLINE) on that virtual address, it can continue > > to read "1" from that virtual address. > > > > MADV_SOFT_OFFLINE "transparently" replaces the underlying physical page > > frame with a new one that contains the same data "1". The original page > > frame is offlined, and the new page frame may be installed lazily. > > Thanks. That helps me come up with a description that is I think a bit clearer: > > MADV_SOFT_OFFLINE (Since Linux 2.6.33) > Soft offline the pages in the range specified by > addr and length. The memory of each page in the > specified range is preserved (i.e., when next > accessed, the same content will be visible, but > in a new physical page frame), and the original > page is offlined (i.e., no longer used, and > taken out of normal memory management). The > effect of the MADV_SOFT_OFFLINE operation is > invisible to (i.e., does not change the seman- > tics of) the calling process. ... > > The actual patch for man-pages-3.26 is below. Thanks. The change looks good to me. Note that the other perceivable change may be a little access delay. The kernel could choose to simply drop the in-memory data when there is another copy in disk. When accessed again, the content for the new physical page will be populated from disk IO. Thanks, Fengguang > > --- a/man2/madvise.2 > +++ b/man2/madvise.2 > @@ -163,12 +163,14 @@ Soft offline the pages in the range specified by > .I addr > and > .IR length . > -The memory of each page in the specified range is copied to a new page, > +The memory of each page in the specified range is preserved > +(i.e., when next accessed, the same content will be visible, > +but in a new physical page frame), > and the original page is offlined > (i.e., no longer used, and taken out of normal memory management). > The effect of the > .B MADV_SOFT_OFFLINE > -operation is normally invisible to (i.e., does not change the semantics of) > +operation is invisible to (i.e., does not change the semantics of) > the calling process. > This feature is intended for testing of memory error-handling code; > it is only available if the kernel was configured with -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/