Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757413Ab0GNXFv (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:05:51 -0400 Received: from mail1.nippynetworks.com ([212.227.250.41]:46084 "EHLO mail1.nippynetworks.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754567Ab0GNXFu (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:05:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4C3E42CC.4010704@wildgooses.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:05:48 +0100 From: Ed W User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100512 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hagen Paul Pfeifer CC: David Miller , rick.jones2@hp.com, davidsen@tmr.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Raise initial congestion window size / speedup slow start? References: <4C3E0684.5060409@wildgooses.com> <4C3E1B54.40604@hp.com> <20100714203919.GD6682@nuttenaction> <20100714.145547.102555471.davem@davemloft.net> <20100714221301.GI6682@nuttenaction> <4C3E3F92.2090506@wildgooses.com> <20100714230100.GL6682@nuttenaction> In-Reply-To: <20100714230100.GL6682@nuttenaction> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1315 Lines: 28 On 15/07/2010 00:01, Hagen Paul Pfeifer wrote: > It is quite late here so I will quickly write two sentence about ECN: one > month ago Lars Eggers posted a link at the tcpm maillinglist where google (not > really sure if it was google) analysed the employment of ECN - the usage was > really low. Search the PDF, it is quite interesting one. > I would speculate that this is because there is a big warning on ECN saying that it may cause you to loose customers who can't connect to you... Businesses are driven by needing to support the most common case, not the most optimal (witness the pain of html development and needing to consider IE6...) What would be more useful is for google to survey how many devices are unable to interoperate with ECN and if that number turned out to be extremely low, and this fact were advertised, then I suspect we might see a mass increase in it's deployment? I know I have it turned off on all my servers because I worry more about loosing one customer than improving the experience for all customers... Cheers Ed W -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/