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Subject: Re: Linux, the microkernel (was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:48:03 -0700
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From: "John Alvord" <jalvo@mbay.net>

>On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:09:30 -0700, "jdow" <jdow@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>From: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
>>
>>>> A microkernel design was actually made to work once, with good performance.
>>>> It was about fifteen years ago, in the amiga.  Know how they pulled it off?
>>>> Commodore used a mutant ultra-cheap 68030 that had -NO- memory management
>>>> unit.
>>>
>>> Vanilla 68000 actually. And it never worked well - the UI folks had
>>> to use a library not threads. The fs performance sucked
>>
>>Some things just cannot be passed by..... The Amiga HAS worked well and
>>DOES work well - - - FINALLY. (It took several years and a VERY serious
>>debugging effort with Bill Hawes and Bryce Nesbitt finding and quashing
>>all manner of bad or missing pointer checks and the like. They made the
>>OS itself a remarkable work of art.)

>Was that the same Bill Hawes who hung around L-K quashing bugs for a
>year or so (maybe 3-4 years ago?)

I believe it was. That is about where I lost track of him. I hope he is
doing well wherever he is. You folks here should have done almost anything
to keep him around.

{^_^}

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