Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754992Ab0GXPsq (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:48:46 -0400 Received: from support.opsdc.com ([65.254.219.9]:59790 "EHLO support.opsdc.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752970Ab0GXPsp (ORCPT ); Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:48:45 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 3273 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:48:45 EDT Subject: Re: [BUG] dm9601 driver won't init device properly From: Chris Fowler To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu Cc: Bob Tracy , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <93420.1279982681@localhost> References: <20100723195736.GA4321@gherkin.frus.com> <93420.1279982681@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:54:02 -0400 Message-ID: <1279983242.11931.4.camel@cfowler-desktop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1465 Lines: 32 On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 10:44 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote: > Wow. An "ethernet" card that won't do an MTU of 1500 even under > Windows. May I > add this to my gallery of examples I use when people say "no vendor > could > *possibly* ship hardware that fscked up"? :) A lot of these "cards" are not meant for you and I. They are meant for casual desktop users that would never put any amount of load on them. About 6 years ago we needed some PCMCIA modem cards and bought 100 of them from a vendor for $25/ea. They started failing in the field. When calling they just could not sync up. Only a reboot could fix the problem. What we learned was that a combination of heat and other factors caused them to drift so much the timing was off. We replaced those in the field with Zoom 3075 at about $65/ea. These modems were not meant for our solution. They were meant for casual laptop users that needed to dial an ISP every so often. I was expecting them to work in a box that would stay up 24x7. They couldn't handle it. I wrote a perl program that used a TLS-4 simulator and would dial the modem constantly. The failures were too much. On the Zooms we would average 10 failures per 1000 calls. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/