Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761410Ab0HFPXJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Aug 2010 11:23:09 -0400 Received: from smtp1.linux-foundation.org ([140.211.169.13]:34679 "EHLO smtp1.linux-foundation.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757449Ab0HFPXG convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 6 Aug 2010 11:23:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100806080642.GA4642@dspnet.fr> References: <23662.1281056463@redhat.com> <20100806011706.GA21657@gondor.apana.org.au> <20100806014057.GA22395@gondor.apana.org.au> <20100806023539.GA22774@gondor.apana.org.au> <20100806080642.GA4642@dspnet.fr> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 08:22:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Initcall ordering problem (TTY vs modprobe vs MD5) and cryptomgr problem To: Olivier Galibert Cc: Kyle Moffett , Herbert Xu , David Howells , gregkh@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1161 Lines: 29 On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Olivier Galibert wrote: > > Maybe Linus would be happier if the self-tests were limited (by > default) to the hardware accelerators? ?Having a software backup and > the risk of data loss indeed makes things different. No. I'd be happier if it was an OPTION. And it damn well defaults to "off". Like all other options. Then, for people who use it, and worry (and distro test kernels etc), turn it on. But don't make it a forced feature, and don't make it something that people think they _should_ turn on. I have crypto enabled, but I don't _use_ it. The upside for me is zero. Nil. Nada. And I bet that's the common case. And dammit, it you don't trust the hardware, don't send the driver upstreams. And if you worry about alpha-particles, you should run a RAM test on every boot. But don't ask _me_ to run one. It's that simple. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/