Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 01:48:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 01:48:42 -0400 Received: from rj.SGI.COM ([192.82.208.96]:31964 "EHLO rj.sgi.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 3 Jun 2002 01:48:38 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 From: Keith Owens To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: kbuild 2.5 timing comparisons In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:58:46 +1000." <28211.1023073126@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 15:48:29 +1000 Message-ID: <31268.1023083309@kao2.melbourne.sgi.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Timing comparisons of kbuild 2.5 release 3.0 and existing 2.5.20 makefiles. ====================================================================== I don't care how fast a build is, if it is not accurate then the time is wasted. Fortunately kbuild 2.5 is both fast and 100% accurate, unlike the existing build system. ====================================================================== Full 2.5.20 config. The full config is too big for bzImage so build vmlinux. This is a smaller config than 2.5.19, 2.5.20 introduced yet more driver errors so fewer objects will build. Machine 1 - 4 x PIII @700 MHz, 1GB ram. kbuild 2.5 make -f Makefile-2.5 -j4 allyes installable 13:43.53 make -f Makefile-2.5 -j4 00:07.94 [a] rm drivers/net/wan/cosa.o (module) make -f Makefile-2.5 -j4 00:10.72 rm drivers/net/wan/cosa.o make -f Makefile-2.5 -j4 NO_MAKEFILE_GEN=1 00:06.30 [b] rm drivers/net/wan/cosa.o make -f Makefile-2.5 -j4 NO_MAKEFILE_GEN=1 00:04.43 [c] rm vmlinux make -f Makefile-2.5 -j4 00:37.21 [d] make -f Makefile-2.5 -j4 NO_MAKEFILE_GEN=1 00:03.47 [b] make -f Makefile-2.5 -j4 NO_MAKEFILE_GEN=1 00:01.57 [e] [a] No spurious rebuilds in kbuild 2.5. 8 seconds to regenerate the global makefile and determine that the entire kernel is up to date. [b] First use of NO_MAKEFILE_GEN=1 takes ~2 seconds to set up the correct environment. [c] Mainly the build time for cosa.o. [d] Mainly the link time for vmlinux. [e] 1.6 seconds to run the entire kernel makefile once it has been built. Existing kbuild. Slightly shorter .config because some of the 2.5.20 Makefiles are broken. The code compiles under kbuild 2.5 but not under the 2.5.20 makefiles. make oldconfig dep 00:54.89 [a] make -j4 BUILD_MODULES=1 vmlinux 13:10.45 make -j4 BUILD_MODULES=1 vmlinux 05:24.95 [b] make -j4 BUILD_MODULES=1 vmlinux 00:39.92 [c] make -j4 BUILD_MODULES=1 vmlinux 00:10.43 [d] [a] make dep is not parallel safe. [b] No change from [a], but spurious rebuilds all over the place. That's what you get for using recursive make instead of a global makefile. [c] No change from [b], but it still has spurious rebuilds. [d] Finally a stable build. Not only is the existing build system significantly slower than kbuild 2.5, it is also unreliable. It takes four builds to verify that you have a stable result. Total time to a stable result: kbuild 2.5 13:43 (one pass) Existing 20:00+ (four passes) ====================================================================== The spurious rebuilds are not even deterministic. They depend on the relative time that each directory is processed (which depends on the system load and the number of processors) and the timestamps on the files before you did the build. IOW, the spurious rebuilds depend on what you did in the source tree last time. Which raises the interesting question - how many of the rebuilds are spurious and how many are really required? To demonstrate the unreliable parallel build on an SMP box - find -type f | xargs touch make oldconfig dep make -j4 BUILD_MODULES=1 vmlinux make -j4 BUILD_MODULES=1 vmlinux ====================================================================== The fact that the existing rules generate spurious rebuilds is bad enough. What is much worse is that they do not detect changes correctly, so objects are not recompiled when they should be. Build a config with all of ACPI turned on, run the existing rules until you get a stable build (all spurious rebuilds have finished). echo '#warning aclocal.h used' >> drivers/acpi/include/aclocal.h make -j4 BUILD_MODULES=1 vmlinux ACPI does not rebuild, even though its headers have changed. ====================================================================== I don't care how fast a build is, if it is not accurate then the time is wasted. Fortunately kbuild 2.5 is both fast and 100% accurate, unlike the existing build system. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/