Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756088Ab0HKTZI (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:25:08 -0400 Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com ([209.85.214.46]:55021 "EHLO mail-bw0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753931Ab0HKTZG convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:25:06 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e3L1SSB7BgyWg5axCUHPvwO04/0e2WSyKt/5iIrMn2PeU6tHPzeHHYLVxbyEygCwVB 1g75OE+7eUXZ+AZ49LaA3PQn5VgWbHZQmriudr+3N0ihbyoTlq/Yhrbzc63MdUlcHDYa 0Mz2lGcNGc9kOnm9gD06vnHTgg0YHM3mBYZ9Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100810044541.GA2817@linux.vnet.ibm.com> References: <20100807061558.GA28087@thunk.org> <20100808155719.GB3635@thunk.org> <20100808213821.GD3635@thunk.org> <20100809112453.77210acc@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100809181638.GI3026@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20100809201822.441905f7@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100810044541.GA2817@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 22:25:04 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three From: Felipe Contreras To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com Cc: Alan Cox , "Ted Ts'o" , david@lang.hm, Brian Swetland , linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arve@android.com, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, pavel@ucw.cz, florian@mickler.org, rjw@sisk.pl, stern@rowland.harvard.edu, peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, menage@google.com, david-b@pacbell.net, James.Bottomley@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org, swmike@swm.pp.se, galibert@pobox.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1154 Lines: 25 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 08:18:22PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: >> You are tightly linking suspend blockers with Android. If they were a >> sensible general solution they would be generic not tied closely to >> Android > > Android is certainly where suspend blockers originated, and is to the best > of my knowledge is still the only platform that uses them.  But there is > a first user of every new mechanism, and for some time that first user > will by definition be the only user of that mechanism.  So the fact > that Android is most probably the only user of suspend blockers does > not prove anything about whether or not suspend blockers are sensible. No, it's the fact that *nobody* else has said: hey, that looks like a good idea, we should use that in our mobile platform (or any platform). -- Felipe Contreras -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/