Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760912Ab0HLTwu (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:52:50 -0400 Received: from isilmar-3.linta.de ([188.40.101.200]:58322 "EHLO linta.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754398Ab0HLTwq (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:52:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 21:52:24 +0200 From: Dominik Brodowski To: Brian Swetland Cc: Felipe Contreras , david@lang.hm, Theodore Tso , peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, James.Bottomley@suse.de, galibert@pobox.com, florian@mickler.org, menage@google.com, swmike@swm.pp.se, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, Alan Cox , arjan@infradead.org Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three Message-ID: <20100812195224.GA6370@comet.dominikbrodowski.net> Mail-Followup-To: Brian Swetland , Felipe Contreras , david@lang.hm, Theodore Tso , peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, James.Bottomley@suse.de, galibert@pobox.com, florian@mickler.org, menage@google.com, swmike@swm.pp.se, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, Alan Cox , arjan@infradead.org References: <20100812010612.GL2516@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20100812034435.GA7403@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20100812174303.GD2524@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1338 Lines: 31 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:48:48PM -0700, Brian Swetland wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Felipe Contreras > wrote: > > > > Not Ubuntu, not Fedora, not MeeGo, not anyone with a typical > > user-space seems to be having this problem. I can argue to you that > > this problem can be solved in easier ways, but instead I will argue > > that perhaps we should wait for somebody besides Android to complain > > about it before providing a "solution". Because after all, what good > > is a "solution" provided by the kernel, if the user-space is not going > > to use it, ever. > > I'm curious, when does Android count as a user of the kernel? I > gather that volume of sales or users doesn't count. Do we have to > include some percentage of "desktop" Linux? > > If we're an undesirable second-class citizen, why do people care that > "android is forking the kernel"? > > I guess I don't understand, I guess I don't, either -- there are some parts of the kernel used by only a handful of users... and here we speak about million users... Best, Dominik -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/