Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934333Ab0HMNYH (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:24:07 -0400 Received: from hera.kernel.org ([140.211.167.34]:37833 "EHLO hera.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S934280Ab0HMNYF (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:24:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4C6546E0.7070208@kernel.org> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:21:36 +0200 From: Tejun Heo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vladislav Bolkhovitin CC: jaxboe@fusionio.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, hch@lst.de, James.Bottomley@suse.de, tytso@mit.edu, chris.mason@oracle.com, swhiteho@redhat.com, konishi.ryusuke@lab.ntt.co.jp, dm-devel@redhat.com, jack@suse.cz, rwheeler@redhat.com, hare@suse.de Subject: Re: [PATCHSET block#for-2.6.36-post] block: replace barrier with sequenced flush References: <1281616891-5691-1-git-send-email-tj@kernel.org> <4C6540C5.8070108@vlnb.net> In-Reply-To: <4C6540C5.8070108@vlnb.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (hera.kernel.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1331 Lines: 31 Hello, On 08/13/2010 02:55 PM, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote: > If requested, I can develop the interface further. I still think the benefit of ordering by tag would be marginal at best, and what have you guys measured there? Under the current framework, there's no easy way to measure full ordered-by-tag implementation. The mechanism for filesystems to communicate the ordering information (which would be a partially ordered graph) just isn't there and there is no way the current usage of ordering-by-tag only for barrier sequence can achieve anything close to that level of difference. Ripping out the original ordering by tag mechanism doesn't amount to much. The use of ordering-by-tag was pretty half-assed there anyway. If you think exporting full ordering information from filesystem to the lower layers is worthwhile, please go ahead. It would be very interesting to see how much actual difference it can make compared to ordering-by-filesystem and if it's actually better and the added complexity is manageable, there's no reason not to do that. Thank you. -- tejun -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/