Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757024Ab0HNDTJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:19:09 -0400 Received: from cantor2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:49006 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756496Ab0HNDTI (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:19:08 -0400 Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:18:45 +1000 From: Neil Brown To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Arve =?UTF-8?B?SGrDuG5uZXbDpWc=?= , Jesse Barnes , Brian Swetland , Felipe Contreras , "Ted Ts'o" , Alan Stern , paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Alan Cox , david@lang.hm, linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, pavel@ucw.cz, florian@mickler.org, peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, menage@google.com, david-b@pacbell.net, James.Bottomley@suse.de, arjan@infradead.org, swmike@swm.pp.se, galibert@pobox.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com Subject: Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three Message-ID: <20100814131845.58544209@notabene> In-Reply-To: <201008131707.03484.rjw@sisk.pl> References: <201008130528.21887.rjw@sisk.pl> <201008131707.03484.rjw@sisk.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.20.1; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 898 Lines: 25 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:07:02 +0200 "Rafael J. Wysocki" wrote: > > > > There is no absolute need to start the suspend process from within the > > kernel, but it makes the user space code much simpler for what we > > need. > > I'm entirely aware of that. Still, I think user space is the right place to > initiate system suspend. > For what it's worth - I completely agree. Clearly there is no a lot of unanimity on this, and so lots of room to experiment with different approaches. It's best if we leave as much as possible of that experimentation in user-space - just have the kernel do what cannot be done elsewhere. NeilBrown -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/