Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:59:24 +0200
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
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Subject: Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three
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Hi!

> >> Question though -- has every feature ever added to the kernel been a
> >> feature that there's pre-existing usage of? ?Seems like a chicken and
> >> egg problem. ?Also, some people seem to think there's value in being
> >> able to build kernels "out of the box" that work with the Android
> >> userspace -- given that there are a few devices out there that have
> >> that userspace on 'em.
> >
> > We generally try to merge new features like this along with code that
> > uses said feature, but there are always exceptions. ?We've merged code
> > one release or more before the new code gets used for example, which is
> > fine IMO. ?What we don't want to see is some new drop of code added and
> > abandoned, but you already knew that.
> 
> If Android guys provided a bare minimal Debian system with suspend
> blockers that people can take a look at and try, I think that would be
> a good proof of concept. And a bare minimum to get the patches merged.

Yes, that would certainly help.

I guess this is the major point -- as suspend blockers seem very
suitable for android, they don't seem suitable for anyone else...

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