Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754679Ab0HPQKE (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:10:04 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:59954 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751390Ab0HPQKD (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:10:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 17:09:11 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Pavel Machek , Alan Cox , Felipe Contreras , "Ted Ts'o" , david@lang.hm, Brian Swetland , linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arve@android.com, florian@mickler.org, rjw@sisk.pl, stern@rowland.harvard.edu, peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, menage@google.com, david-b@pacbell.net, James.Bottomley@suse.de, swmike@swm.pp.se, galibert@pobox.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com Subject: Re: Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three Message-ID: <20100816160911.GA3479@srcf.ucam.org> References: <20100811222854.GJ2516@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20100812010612.GL2516@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20100812034435.GA7403@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20100813115751.3bbbafbd@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20100813152912.GE2511@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20100814073843.GA27430@elf.ucw.cz> <20100814151048.GA2461@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20100814095351.6a996187@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100814095351.6a996187@infradead.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 778 Lines: 21 On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 09:53:51AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > they tend to go "off". > > however I think you're making an assumption that there is a > real difference between a deep idle state and "off".... > > For modern x86 hardware, that assumption isn't really valid. > (other than a very very small sram that stores register content in the > idle case) Really? I thought the TSC stopped in suspend. Does having a package go into C6 mean that the RAM goes into self-refresh? -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/