Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752724Ab0HRRwA (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:52:00 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]:60948 "EHLO moutng.kundenserver.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752197Ab0HRRv6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:51:58 -0400 Message-ID: <4C6C1DC1.8090208@vlnb.net> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:52:01 +0400 From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100527 Thunderbird/3.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Bottomley CC: scst-devel , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Scst-devel] linuxcon 2010... References: <4C69653E.6050808@vlnb.net> <1282077040.16098.47.camel@mulgrave.site> In-Reply-To: <1282077040.16098.47.camel@mulgrave.site> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:wp6L4f5+dejPpGYMnqneIVPu3BdfWM2+K93dXec4Smz pOz2BfP8kagBSscMETA0JwrsPnBZKRhzbmlmB0XG5jeDivJhsm u+yaUp8fyeVn4lNiKlRQRXrnN6Q7zvZCdw5QIprdWTIGO+b/AX cb0pfvkY8W1rmSWu8s1T1VhneN542MgMAf4j3A+yRQjzM6aeKs n6Q5uMILcDAwgJhk3M13A== Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1882 Lines: 44 James Bottomley, on 08/18/2010 12:30 AM wrote: >> 1. What don't you like in the transition path for users from STGT to >> SCST, which I proposed: >> >> - The only people which would be affected by replacing of STGT by SCST >> would be users of ibmvstgt. Other STGT users would not notice it at all. >> Thus, we should update ibmvstgt for SCST. If ibmvstgt updated for SCST, >> the update for its users would be just writing of a simple scstadmin's >> config file. >> >> - STGT doesn't have backend drivers, which SCST doesn't have, so >> there's nothing to worry here. At max, AIO support should be added to >> fileio_tgt. >> >> - STGT user space targets can use SCST backend via scst_local module. >> Scst_local module is ready and work very well. >> >> The result would be very clear without any obsolete mess. > > So does that get us up to being a drop in replacement? I think you're > saying that even with all of this, at least the VSCSI part will need > updating, so the answer seems to be "no". Sorry, I can't understand, "no" for which? For the whole transition path, or just until there is a patch for ibmvstgt to become ibmvscst? >> 4. Have you changed your opinion that a driver level multipath is >> forbidden in Linux and now you think that an iSCSI target with MC/S >> support is acceptable? > > no; I still think MCS is a pointless duplication of multipath that only > works for iSCSI. Then, does it mean that similarly as it was with open-iscsi, which had to remove MC/S support to be able to be accepted into the mainline, an iSCSI target can't go into mainline if it has MC/S? Thanks for answers, Vlad -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/