Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754896Ab0KHPGx (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:06:53 -0500 Received: from mail-gw0-f46.google.com ([74.125.83.46]:40515 "EHLO mail-gw0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754835Ab0KHPGw (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:06:52 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=PYLyT0lGsBlZwMroQTaf18JlWQOzMgtNRpsOXo0cCXqeSymqyZZoEdW/mqGj7FesqL x5PbXAbP+T85tqAM80ys8cA6nhSc0gXfPpzcoQzz+86PRVRAqg8PuHHxX8lTlHD5qtMR pjkZtaXCYxk7wEfqWd5D3cDRqpxeaO5yLqG7o= Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:06:47 +0100 From: Frederic Weisbecker To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Joe Korty , mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, dhowells@redhat.com, loic.minier@linaro.org, dhaval.giani@gmail.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, josh@joshtriplett.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] a local-timer-free version of RCU Message-ID: <20101108150644.GB5466@nowhere> References: <20101104232148.GA28037@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20101105210059.GA27317@tsunami.ccur.com> <20101106192812.GI15561@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101106192812.GI15561@linux.vnet.ibm.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2055 Lines: 45 On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 12:28:12PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 05:00:59PM -0400, Joe Korty wrote: > > +/** > > + * synchronize_sched - block until all CPUs have exited any non-preemptive > > + * kernel code sequences. > > + * > > + * This means that all preempt_disable code sequences, including NMI and > > + * hardware-interrupt handlers, in progress on entry will have completed > > + * before this primitive returns. However, this does not guarantee that > > + * softirq handlers will have completed, since in some kernels > > OK, so your approach treats preempt_disable code sequences as RCU > read-side critical sections by relying on the fact that the per-CPU > ->krcud task cannot run until such code sequences complete, correct? > > This seems to require that each CPU's ->krcud task be awakened at > least once per grace period, but I might well be missing something. I understood it differently, but I might also be wrong as well. krcud executes the callbacks, but it is only woken up for CPUs that want to execute callbacks, not for those that only signal a quiescent state, which is only determined in two ways through rcu_poll_other_cpus(): - if the CPU is in an rcu_read_lock() critical section, it has the IN_RCU_READ_LOCK flag. If so then we set up its DO_RCU_COMPLETION flag so that it signals its quiescent state on rcu_read_unlock(). - otherwise it's in a quiescent state. This works for rcu and rcu bh critical sections. But this works in rcu sched critical sections only if rcu_read_lock_sched() has been called explicitly, otherwise that doesn't work (in preempt_disable(), local_irq_save(), etc...). I think this is what is not complete when Joe said it's not yet a complete rcu implementation. This is also the part that scaries me most :) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/