Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756827Ab0KJU4u (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:56:50 -0500 Received: from earthlight.etchedpixels.co.uk ([81.2.110.250]:35309 "EHLO www.etchedpixels.co.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756651Ab0KJU4s (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:56:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:55:32 +0000 From: Alan Cox To: "Ted Ts'o" Cc: Elvis Dowson , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Forked android kernel development from linux kernel mainline Message-ID: <20101110205532.03060e6e@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <20101110003524.GL3099@thunk.org> References: <20101109223225.5e261346@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20101110003524.GL3099@thunk.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1511 Lines: 30 > alternative, and is higher priority than any other consideration. If > a product had 33% less battery lifetime, but was developed in > mainline, would you buy that over a standard product? OK, maybe a That's if you believe the Google thing that it can't be done any other way. Which other vendors don't seem to be agree with. > OTOH, if the original poster thinks that he can develop changes to the > Android userspace that allow the use of an upstream kernel, and has > just as good battery lifetime, and with a system which is just as > debuggable and easy to maintain as the current android userspace, then > by all means, I would love for him to try to prove that he can. And I > will certainly be happy to introduce him to the Android developers who > measure power usage in mobile devices using microwatt meters to see if > he really can do as good of a job using a stock kernel. Well actually there is a much better simple reason. One of the things you get by using a standard kernel is the ability to dump a true Android environment onto another device that's running something else as well. I don't quite understand why people play some of the strange games they do but being able to dump them on arbitary Linux platforms is no doubt useful. Alan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/