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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [patch] fat/msdos/vfat crud removal
Date: 9 Jun 2002 11:49:47 -0700
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Followup to:  <m18z5owd9f.fsf@frodo.biederman.org>
By author:    ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
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>
> Dave Jones <davej@suse.de> writes:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 03:09:44AM -0400, Albert D. Cahalan wrote:
> > 
> >  > There has been talk of removing __KERNEL__ usage from
> >  > some of the header files.
> > 
> > Where? If anything we need to increase __KERNEL__ usage in headers.
> > We export far too much crap which makes no sense to userspace.
> 
> So we should just remove __KERNEL__ altogether.  And say with 2.5.x
> nothing is exported.  Which pretty much has been the official policy
> since user space started using glibc.
> 
> #include <linux/*>
> and 
> #include <asm/*>
> are no longer supported.
> 

In theory, perhaps.  There is plenty that just really can't be done
that way, especially stuff which deals with ioctls and their
structures.

It makes more sense to constrain what is exported to a minimum, but
actually have it be usable.

	-hpa
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