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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:39:39 +0300
From: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/19]: SCST SYSFS interface implementation
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Boaz Harrosh, on 11/15/2010 08:19 PM wrote:
> On 11/15/2010 06:16 PM, Greg KH wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:46:38AM +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>>> All these issues we were discussing are interesting and are real Kernel
>>> problems. For instance the last comment you made was that for such a dynamic
>>> system and life time problems, and functionality. A better and expected
>>> solution might be the device tree and not sysfs.
>>
>> Yes, that is what I have been saying for a while now.
>>
>> Again:
>> 	This code is using kobjects incorrectly.
>> 	This code should not be using kobjects.
>>
>> this is my last response to this thread now, and I'm sure you can
>> understand why.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> greg k-h
> 
> Thank you Greg for your time and most valuable input.
> I'm sorry for not understanding your position. I needed the
> clear cut statement:
> 
> 	This code should not be using kobjects. i.e not belong in sysfs
> 
> SCST guys. This sounds pretty clear cut to me. Sysfs was not built
> in mind for such dynamic systems, and it will cause never ending
> conflicts with future maintenance of sysfs vs SCST.

As I explained in the previous e-mail, I believe, SYSFS perfectly suits
SCST and SCST perfectly suits SYSFS.

If you think it isn't so, let's discuss each showstopper for that, one
after one.

> Lets call it Linux-Target and unify all our efforts.

Looks like a great idea!

Thanks,
Vlad
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