Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:03:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:03:18 -0400 Received: from cpe-24-221-152-185.az.sprintbbd.net ([24.221.152.185]:55245 "EHLO opus.bloom.county") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:03:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:03:09 -0700 From: Tom Rini To: Roland Dreier Cc: "David S. Miller" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: PCI DMA to small buffers on cache-incoherent arch Message-ID: <20020610170309.GC14252@opus.bloom.county> In-Reply-To: <52d6v19r9n.fsf@topspin.com> <20020608.222903.122223122.davem@redhat.com> <15619.9534.521209.93822@nanango.paulus.ozlabs.org> <20020609.212705.00004924.davem@redhat.com> <523cvv9laj.fsf@topspin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 08:59:48AM -0700, Roland Dreier wrote: > >>>>> "David" == David S Miller writes: > > Paul> This is the problem scenario. Suppose we are doing DMA to a > Paul> buffer B and also independently accessing a variable X which > Paul> is not part of B. Suppose that X and the beginning of B are > Paul> both in cache line C. > > David> I see what the problem is. Hmmm... > > David> I'm trying to specify this such that knowledge of > David> cachelines and whatnot don't escape the arch specific code, > David> ho hum... Looks like that isn't possible. > > So is the consensus now that in general drivers should make sure any > buffers passed to pci_map/unmap are aligned to SMP_CACHE_BYTES (and a > multiple of SMP_CACHE_BYTES in size)? In other words if a driver uses > an unaligned buffer it should be fixed unless we can prove (and > document in a comment :) that it won't cause problems on an arch > without cache coherency and with a writeback cache. And how about we don't call it SMP_CACHE_BYTES too? The processors where this matters certainly aren't doing SMP... -- Tom Rini (TR1265) http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/