Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:01:20 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:01:19 -0400 Received: from khms.westfalen.de ([62.153.201.243]:28582 "EHLO khms.westfalen.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:01:17 -0400 Date: 10 Jun 2002 22:53:00 +0200 From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen) To: torvalds@transmeta.com cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <8QbwdDPmw-B@khms.westfalen.de> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: of ethernet names (was [PATCH] Futex Asynchronous X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.12d.kh9 R/C435 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: Organisation? Me?! Are you kidding? X-No-Junk-Mail: I do not want to get *any* junk mail. Comment: Unsolicited commercial mail will incur an US$100 handling fee per received mail. X-Fix-Your-Modem: +++ATS2=255&WO1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds) wrote on 09.06.02 in : > Is the "magic ioctl" approach ugly? Sure. But it's fairly well contained > to just one program (ifconfig), and everybody else just uses that. I think > it's less horrible than the alternatives right now. If it *were* all contained in ifconfig, you'd be right, but that isn't even remotely true. There are a *huge* number of programs that know about network interfaces. Apart from ifconfig, we have route, routed, iptables, ip, bootloads of admin scripts for device configuration, for firewalling, pppd anmd scripts, arp, dhcpd, portsentry, and I haven't even really scratched the surface here. Sure, in the old times, when you could get Unix(tm) with or without the "networking option" for extra money, there wasn't much. But that has dramatically changed in these Internet times. MfG Kai - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/