Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754226Ab0KSNHZ (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:07:25 -0500 Received: from DMZ-MAILSEC-SCANNER-3.MIT.EDU ([18.9.25.14]:46021 "EHLO dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751746Ab0KSNHX convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:07:23 -0500 X-AuditID: 1209190e-b7b3bae000000a71-f0-4ce6768ad50b Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] sched: automated per tty task groups Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Theodore Tso In-Reply-To: <8762vtsbx5.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:07:12 -0500 Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Andev , Lennart Poettering , Linus Torvalds , Alan Cox , Dhaval Giani , Mike Galbraith , Vivek Goyal , Oleg Nesterov , Markus Trippelsdorf , Mathieu Desnoyers , Ingo Molnar , LKML , Balbir Singh Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Message-Id: References: <20101116170312.GA19327@tango.0pointer.de> <20101116181603.GC19327@tango.0pointer.de> <20101116202839.GC27235@tango.0pointer.de> <20101116205243.64e4a67a@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20101116211909.GB16589@tango.0pointer.de> <20101116233934.GC1568@thunk.org> <20101117002159.GA3184@tango.0pointer.de> <20101117020626.GB3290@thunk.org> <1290167993.2109.1562.camel@laptop> <8762vtsbx5.fsf@gmail.com> To: Ben Gamari X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 906 Lines: 22 On Nov 19, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Ben Gamari wrote: >> t means it will become >> impossible to sanely switch off (gnome firmly believes knobs are evil), >> leaving everybody who _does_ know wth they're doing up a certain creek >> without a paddle. > > Please, can we stop with this false dichotomy? This is decidedly not > true and as Lennart has already pointed out, the knob already exists in > systemd. You may like the kernel approach, but this does not mean there > is no place for grouping driven by userspace. Yes, and then at the next release, some idiotic GNOME engineer will decide to the "improve" the system by removing yet another knob.... -- Ted -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/