Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753516Ab0K2BMz (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:12:55 -0500 Received: from mail-qy0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:56142 "EHLO mail-qy0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751889Ab0K2BMx (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:12:53 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references :content-type:organization:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=NIwistrmz+OxH1CF+t0x+i3pYSr23cYofz0K0re711rpY7ijJENn2MHj57ZsO7dsUJ UP9Vg5LXvfE3sYPiQwKBebdw1IPrskkrOIg5gQfjw329ZBjNj7KMiRjl+dTMwQR13+87 TY//iojBCZAQT2ZVGtVRZbNuLFg9jDXCwg8fc= Subject: Re: VT console need rewrite From: Microcai Reply-To: microcai@fedoraproject.org To: "Ted Ts'o" Cc: Lisa Milne , "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-console@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org> References: <1290941875.13526.15.camel@cai.gentoo> <73BC440E-833E-4E1B-ACCC-5D68BAB89D83@mit.edu> <1290951770.13526.18.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101129020610.7ea7c79e.lisa@ltmnet.com> <1290961207.13526.31.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: fedoraproject.org Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:14:04 +0800 Message-ID: <1290993244.877.3.camel@cai.gentoo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1646 Lines: 38 在 2010-11-28日的 14:46 -0500,Ted Ts'o写道: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:20:07AM +0800, Microcai wrote: > > > > > Another possible model: split the current system in 2, so there's a > > > bytestream handler, and a vt-legacy module. Then use the interface > > > between bytestream/legacy as an interface for future vt-kernel and > > > vt-user modules. > > > > this may cause early printk stop working. > > Let's start by asking a much more fundamental question; what the heck > are your goals? > > If the main goal of the console is emergency debugging when the system > is in a very bad state (i.e., trashed initrd, etc.) do we really even > need Unicode support? > > How many people do regular login, development, reading e-mail, etc., > on the console? Very few! If the answer is because you hate X, as > you've already pointed out, we already have fbterm. Where is it > written that we need to have a full unicode-capable console system? > Why is this so important; especially if doing this is going to be very > difficult, and risks breaking lots of stuff if we try to mess with it? > > - Ted Hey, my old patch already did it , and do not break any old stuff. Question is , the VT code *is really very old*. Just want to simplify the code, remove old stuff, make it future compatible. Forward compatibility is more important than backward one -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/