Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754008Ab0K2Bzq (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:55:46 -0500 Received: from mojo.unsafe.ru ([83.222.2.183]:31508 "EHLO mojo.unsafe.ru" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751973Ab0K2Bzp (ORCPT ); Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:55:45 -0500 Message-ID: <4CF3081B.9090307@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:55:39 +0300 From: Alexey Gladkov User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9pre) Gecko/20100817 Lightning/1.0b2pre Thunderbird/3.1.3pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ted Ts'o" , Microcai , Lisa Milne , "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-console@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: VT console need rewrite References: <1290941875.13526.15.camel@cai.gentoo> <73BC440E-833E-4E1B-ACCC-5D68BAB89D83@mit.edu> <1290951770.13526.18.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101129020610.7ea7c79e.lisa@ltmnet.com> <1290961207.13526.31.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org> In-Reply-To: <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1081 Lines: 29 28.11.2010 22:46, Ted Ts'o wrote: > How many people do regular login, development, reading e-mail, etc., > on the console? Very few! Once I broke the euro symbol in the kbd keymaps and got a kick in the ass very quickly :). It means that users continue to use the console quite active. Another example: I keep getting a new keymaps and console fonts for each new kbd release. Maybe not a lot of console users, but more of them than you think. > If the answer is because you hate X, as > you've already pointed out, we already have fbterm. Where is it > written that we need to have a full unicode-capable console system? fbterm ‎can't help in all cases. For example: we have a limitation NR_KEYS, which makes it impossible to use keycode > 256 in keymaps. I've already received several complaints about it. -- Rgrds, legion -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/