Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754456Ab0K3IPT (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:15:19 -0500 Received: from mail-wy0-f174.google.com ([74.125.82.174]:38179 "EHLO mail-wy0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753480Ab0K3IPR (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Nov 2010 03:15:17 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:x-x-sender:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=luReE2odfuyQ2dl2IALZLdZnDv3xOmLMzyu3A4lrKJqDs3IqxcNDisLGpGARVo9Bv/ MhCd4anqUDaeXaMmo/bSSVzn7cNQeghrknPJrxrU1ur62K0j3/ugQZt6xYeZCpVuWFRR QQ1iAf85cMHHkRW236bi9GqpLE9Yy02XsQi0I= Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:15:05 +0100 (CET) From: Hans Ulli Kroll X-X-Sender: elektroman@localhost.localdomain To: Paulius Zaleckas cc: Arnd Bergmann , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Hans Ulli Kroll , Russell King , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: Gemini: Add support for PCI BUS In-Reply-To: <4CF40AEF.7070200@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <1290860675-15453-1-git-send-email-ulli.kroll@googlemail.com> <201011291745.22566.arnd@arndb.de> <4CF3F687.6040801@gmail.com> <201011292102.41155.arnd@arndb.de> <4CF40AEF.7070200@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LNX 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3810 Lines: 94 On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Paulius Zaleckas wrote: > On 11/29/2010 10:02 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Monday 29 November 2010 19:52:55 Paulius Zaleckas wrote: > > > On 11/29/2010 06:45 PM, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > > > There are many differences between readl and __raw_readl, including > > > > > > > > * __raw_readl does not have barriers and does not serialize with > > > > spinlocks, so it breaks on out-of-order CPUs. > > > > * __raw_readl does not have a specific endianess, while readl is > > > > fixed little-endian, just as the hardware is in this case. > > > > The endian-conversion is a NOP on little-endian ARM, but required > > > > if you actually run on a big-endian ARM (you don't). > > > > * __raw_readl may not be atomic, gcc is free to split the access > > > > into byte wise reads (it normally does not, unless you mark > > > > the pointer __attribute__((packed))). > > > > > > > > In essence, it is almost never a good idea to use __raw_readl, and > > > > the double underscores should tell you so. > > > > > > You are wrong: > > > > > > Since CONFIG_ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE is NOT defined for FA526 core, > > > no barriers are in use when using readl. It just translates into > > > le32_to_cpu(__raw_readl(x)). Now this CPU has physical pin for endianess > > > configuration and if you will chose big-endian you will fail to read > > > internal registers, because they ALSO change endianess and le32_to_cpu() > > > will screw it. However it is different when accessing registers through > > > PCI bus, then you need to use readl(). > > > > Ok, I only checked that the platform does not support big-endian Linux > > kernel, not if the HW designers screwed up their registers, sorry about > > that. > > > > The other points are of course still valid: If the code ever gets > > used on an out of order CPU, it is broken. More importantly, if someone > > looks at the code as an example for writing another PCI support code, > > it may end up getting copied to some place where it ends up causing > > trouble. > > > > The typical way to deal with mixed-endian hardware reliably is to have > > a header file containing code like > > > > #ifdef CONFIG_GEMINI_BIG_ENDIAN_IO > > #define gemini_readl(x) __swab32(readl(x)) > > #define ... > > #else > > #define gemini_readl(x) readl(x)) > > #endif > > > > This also takes care of the (not as unlikely as you'd hope) case that > > the next person reusing the PCI hardware wires its endianess different > > from the CPU endianess. > > Actually I am not very sure how CPU works in big endian mode :) > I have never tried it and I think only some guys who made it did that. > So readl will work for 99.99% of cases. In datasheet they say that: > "All registers in Gemini use Little Endian and must be accessed by aligned > 32-bit word operations. The bus connection interface logic provides an Endian > Conversion function." > For me it looks like it can mean whatever you want :) > I think the endianes pin switched only the cpu, not the hardware registers. Here is some sample code from the ethernet devive on Gemini typedef union { unsigned int bits32; struct bit { #if (BIG_ENDIAN==1) unsigned int reserved : 15; // bit 31:17 unsigned int v_bit_mode : 1; // bit 16 unsigned int device_id : 12; // bit 15:4 unsigned int revision_id : 4; // bit 3:0 #else unsigned int revision_id : 4; // bit 3:0 unsigned int device_id : 12; // bit 15:4 unsigned int v_bit_mode : 1; // bit 16 unsigned int reserved : 15; // bit 31:17 #endif } bits; } TOE_VERSION_T; -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/