Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755805Ab0LEOTn (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Dec 2010 09:19:43 -0500 Received: from caramon.arm.linux.org.uk ([78.32.30.218]:52185 "EHLO caramon.arm.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754771Ab0LEOTm (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Dec 2010 09:19:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 14:19:21 +0000 From: Russell King - ARM Linux To: Mikael Pettersson , Venkatesh Pallipadi , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [BUG] 2.6.37-rc3 massive interactivity regression on ARM Message-ID: <20101205141921.GF9138@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> References: <19697.8378.717761.236202@pilspetsen.it.uu.se> <19707.34405.791777.298955@pilspetsen.it.uu.se> <20101205131702.GE9138@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101205131702.GE9138@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 4343 Lines: 85 On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:17:02PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:32:37PM +0100, Mikael Pettersson wrote: > > Mikael Pettersson writes: > > > The scenario is that I do a remote login to an ARM build server, > > > use screen to start a sub-shell, in that shell start a largish > > > compile job, detach from that screen, and from the original login > > > shell I occasionally monitor the compile job with top or ps or > > > by attaching to the screen. > > > > > > With kernels 2.6.37-rc2 and -rc3 this causes the machine to become > > > very sluggish: top takes forever to start, once started it shows no > > > activity from the compile job (it's as if it's sleeping on a lock), > > > and ps also takes forever and shows no activity from the compile job. > > > > > > Rebooting into 2.6.36 eliminates these issues. > > > > > > I do pretty much the same thing (remote login -> screen -> compile job) > > > on other archs, but so far I've only seen the 2.6.37-rc misbehaviour > > > on ARM EABI, specifically on an IOP n2100. (I have access to other ARM > > > sub-archs, but haven't had time to test 2.6.37-rc on them yet.) > > > > > > Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas about the cause? > > > > (Re-followup since I just realised my previous followups were to Rafael's > > regressions mailbot rather than the original thread.) > > > > > The bug is still present in 2.6.37-rc4. I'm currently trying to bisect it. > > > > git bisect identified > > > > [305e6835e05513406fa12820e40e4a8ecb63743c] sched: Do not account irq time to current task > > > > as the cause of this regression. Reverting it from 2.6.37-rc4 (requires some > > hackery due to subsequent changes in the same area) restores sane behaviour. > > > > The original patch submission talks about irq-heavy scenarios. My case is the > > exact opposite: UP, !PREEMPT, NO_HZ, very low irq rate, essentially 100% CPU > > bound in userspace but expected to schedule quickly when needed (e.g. running > > top or ps or just hitting CR in one shell while another runs a compile job). > > > > I've reproduced the misbehaviour with 2.6.37-rc4 on ARM/mach-iop32x and > > ARM/mach-ixp4xx, but ARM/mach-kirkwood does not misbehave, and other archs > > (x86 SMP, SPARC64 UP and SMP, PowerPC32 UP, Alpha UP) also do not misbehave. > > > > So it looks like an ARM-only issue, possibly depending on platform specifics. > > > > One difference I noticed between my Kirkwood machine and my ixp4xx and iop32x > > machines is that even though all have CONFIG_NO_HZ=y, the timer irq rate is > > much higher on Kirkwood, even when the machine is idle. > > The above patch you point out is fundamentally broken. > > + rq->clock = sched_clock_cpu(cpu); > + irq_time = irq_time_cpu(cpu); > + if (rq->clock - irq_time > rq->clock_task) > + rq->clock_task = rq->clock - irq_time; > > This means that we will only update rq->clock_task if it is smaller than > rq->clock. So, eventually over time, rq->clock_task becomes the maximum > value that rq->clock can ever be. Or in other words, the maximum value > of sched_clock_cpu(). > > Once that has been reached, although rq->clock will wrap back to zero, > rq->clock_task will not, and so (I think) task execution time accounting > effectively stops dead. > > I guess this hasn't been noticed on x86 as they have a 64-bit sched_clock, > and so need to wait a long time for this to be noticed. However, on ARM > where we tend to have 32-bit counters feeding sched_clock(), this value > will wrap far sooner. I'm not so sure about this - certainly that if() statement looks very suspicious above. As irq_time_cpu() will always be zero, can you try removing the conditional? In any case, sched_clock_cpu() should be resilient against sched_clock() wrapping. However, your comments about it being iop32x and ixp4xx (both of which are 32-bit-counter-to-ns based implementations) and kirkwood being a 32-bit-extended-to-63-bit-counter-to-ns implementation does make me wonder... -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/