Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754891Ab0LGUhQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:37:16 -0500 Received: from oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com ([67.222.39.60]:50648 "HELO oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1754786Ab0LGUhO convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:37:14 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=virtuousgeek.org; h=Received:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=qD8jmEecScD0BSXM0/q/QSB5j6bEbPxeaidVXPMpMoZYEis0QzeETHEXFozK0S1VUMD187NPjpoJiy5UxCuqC0N2gcD5ugbsrmCXVOto8FY/kCDoSsQOIh8QG3QMB6Ma; Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 12:37:10 -0800 From: Jesse Barnes To: microcai@fedoraproject.org Cc: Andi Kleen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-console@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: VT console need rewrite Message-ID: <20101207123710.4d0e16af@jbarnes-desktop> In-Reply-To: <1291025577.9785.7.camel@cai.gentoo> References: <1290941875.13526.15.camel@cai.gentoo> <87mxosla7p.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> <1291025577.9785.7.camel@cai.gentoo> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.6 (GTK+ 2.18.9; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Identified-User: {10642:box514.bluehost.com:virtuous:virtuousgeek.org} {sentby:smtp auth 67.174.193.198 authed with jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org} Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1347 Lines: 31 On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:12:57 +0800 Microcai wrote: > 在 2010-11-29一的 11:01 +0100,Andi Kleen写道: > > > To be honest I have doubts its worth it. This was discussed years and > > years ago and the conclusion back then that people who need unicode > > fonts should use them in X or another graphical console environment > > (there are plenty to chose from these days). Has this changed? > > > > -Andi > > > > Yes, it change. Linux graphical stuck have changed a lot. With KMS, > console got a native resolution, and looks very nice. But really, keep this stuff out of the kernel. Sure, the kernel can provide memory and a framebuffer to draw in (subject to the constraints Jerome already mentioned), but why try to deal with fancy input or font handling there? IMO the kernel console should be limited to printing debug and error information; a separate userspace daemon should handle input and console support. It would be great to avoid the need for CONFIG_VT entirely for the typical Linux system. -- Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/