Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758491Ab0LMRfq (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:35:46 -0500 Received: from casper.infradead.org ([85.118.1.10]:38832 "EHLO casper.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753995Ab0LMRfo convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:35:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] perf tools: Add reference timestamp to perf header From: Peter Zijlstra To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo Cc: Frederic Weisbecker , "David S. Ahern" , linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20101213172216.GB7417@ghostprotocols.net> References: <1291773285-16254-1-git-send-email-daahern@cisco.com> <1291773285-16254-2-git-send-email-daahern@cisco.com> <20101212201613.GA1784@nowhere> <4D06301C.2090309@cisco.com> <20101213155451.GA1691@nowhere> <20101213164854.GL5407@ghostprotocols.net> <20101213170923.GB1691@nowhere> <1292260289.6803.297.camel@twins> <20101213171537.GC1691@nowhere> <1292260699.6803.305.camel@twins> <20101213172216.GB7417@ghostprotocols.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:35:16 +0100 Message-ID: <1292261716.6803.332.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1766 Lines: 42 On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 15:22 -0200, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote: > > No, the last one already happened, you cannot postpone the last one, > > there will always be another excuse. > > Did you understand the use case? How to have multiple reference times > when appending? Yes, I understood it perfectly, I just detest the existence of these pure user records, they need to die ASAP. > "last one" means adding a multiplexor, PERF_RECORD_LAST_ONE if you will, > and inside it we add new events if the need arises. Then never again we > add a PERF_RECORD_ event in userspace. Nah, that sucks too, the whole concept of pure user-space events in that stream sucks. There's multiple things you can do, you could: - create a kernel event PERF_RECORD_NEW_BUFFER and stuff that into each fresh buffer when its created, it could contain all kinds of 1-time information, like: * this CLOCK_MONOTONIC offset (for what little good that does, since our clock isn't strictly sync'ed to CLOCK_MONOTONIC so we can incur arbitrary drift). * architecture details, like 64/32 host info needed for the PERF_SAMPLE_REGS stuff. - extend the existing header infrastructure to write a new header in front of the new stream. The main header already has a data section that points to the end of the stream, add a continuation header section that points to a continuation-header used to appends and record the clock offset data in there. - something else entirely. Just stop using these stupid fake events and be somewhat creative. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/