Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754758Ab0LOPEd (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:04:33 -0500 Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr ([192.134.164.83]:56885 "EHLO mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753826Ab0LOPEa (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:04:30 -0500 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,349,1288566000"; d="scan'208";a="83979966" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:04:26 +0100 From: Samuel Thibault To: Pavel Machek Cc: Microcai , "Ted Ts'o" , Lisa Milne , "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-console@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: VT console need rewrite Message-ID: <20101215150426.GA26989@const.bordeaux.inria.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Samuel Thibault , Pavel Machek , Microcai , Ted Ts'o , Lisa Milne , "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-console@vger.kernel.org References: <1290951770.13526.18.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101129020610.7ea7c79e.lisa@ltmnet.com> <1290961207.13526.31.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org> <1290993244.877.3.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101129085829.GM5142@const.bordeaux.inria.fr> <1291023157.9785.2.camel@cai.gentoo> <20101129095823.GQ5142@const.bordeaux.inria.fr> <20101215144501.GB10467@ucw.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20101215144501.GB10467@ucw.cz> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1409 Lines: 32 Pavel Machek, le Wed 15 Dec 2010 15:45:02 +0100, a ?crit : > > But complete unicode support (with arabic ligatures, tibetan > > combinations, etc.) won't ever be accepted in the kernel as that's far > > too involved in terms of font rendering. So the userland way needs to > > be fixed for these anyway, and then things like chinese will go along... > > Well... english has ligatures, too (fi); English ligatures are extremely far from what arabic needs. People don't even actually know that there are ligatures in English, while for arabic, people would even have a hard time reading something that isn't using ligatures. > console does not support them nicely and we still use it. Err, I've very rarely seen the fi/ff ligatures on the console, it was mostly from copy/pastes from pdf documents. > Support for eastern european characters by default would be very very > nice... and yes, that's just breaking the 256 char limit, nothing more > complex. The console can do 512 glyphs, not only 256, so eastern europe support is a matter of combining a latin1 font with parts of the other latin fonts. That already covers a lot of european languages. Samuel -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/