Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:39:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:39:24 -0400 Received: from twilight.cs.hut.fi ([130.233.40.5]:24524 "EHLO twilight.cs.hut.fi") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:39:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:41:56 +0300 From: Ville Herva To: Robert Love Cc: Cort Dougan , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [STATUS 2.5] July 10, 2002 Message-ID: <20020710204156.GH1465@niksula.cs.hut.fi> Mail-Followup-To: Ville Herva , Robert Love , Cort Dougan , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <3D2B89AC.25661.91896FEB@localhost> <1026323661.1178.73.camel@sinai> <20020710191824.GT1548@niksula.cs.hut.fi> <1026331418.1244.82.camel@sinai> <20020710142005.U762@host110.fsmlabs.com> <1026332738.1244.86.camel@sinai> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1026332738.1244.86.camel@sinai> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1794 Lines: 42 On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:25:38PM -0700, you [Robert Love] wrote: > On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 13:20, Cort Dougan wrote: > > > Why was the rate incremented to maintain interactive performance? Wasn't > > that the whole idea of the pre-empt work? Does the burden of pre-empt > > actually require this? > > I did not say it was increased to improve interactivity response - and > it certainly has little or nothing to do with kernel preemption being > merged. > > I suspect a big benefit would be poll/select performance. I think this > is why RedHat increased HZ in their kernels. Red Hat Limbo ChangeLog says: "The kernel used in this release supports the following list of improvements and new features. The kernel is based on the 2.4.19- pre10-ac2 release for this beta." "HZ=1000 on i686 and Athlon means that the system clock ticks 10 times as fast as on other x86 platforms (i386 and i586); HZ=100 has been the Linux default on x86 platforms for the entire history of the Linux kernel. This change provides better interactive response, lower latency response from some programs, and better response from the scheduler. We have adjusted the /proc filesystem to report numbers as if using the default HZ=100, but it is possible that issues could arise -- please test and report bugs, as always." So they aim for interactive response. Otoh, I think they don't include pre-emp nor any low-lat work. I might be wrong. But the network console and crash dump functionality they include (by Ingo Molner, I reckon) seems sweet. -- v -- v@iki.fi - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/