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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>, R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl,
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Subject: Re: Rusty's module talk at the Kernel Summit 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:55:04 -0300."
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In message <20020711025503.GB5973@conectiva.com.br> you write:
> Em Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 12:48:30PM +1000, Rusty Russell escreveu:
> > On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:24:11 -0700
> > "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com> wrote:
> > > smaller ones, in the case where there is substantial code that is not
> > > needed for some configurations.
> > 
> > For God's sake, WHY?  Look at what you're doing to your TLB (and if you
> > made IPv4 a removable module, I'll bet real money you have a bug unless
> > you are *very* *very* clever).
> > 
> > Modules are not "free".  Sorry.
> 
> What about Andi Kleen patch to not use vmalloc (well, vmalloc is used as a
> fallback) when loading modules but instead use big pages?  It is being
> integrated in 2.4.20-pre, IIRC. IIRC with that there is still some issues, so
> for enlightening the audience here, could you share your view on that patch? 
8)

Sure, but there was no indication that Adam was using such a patch 8)

> And for _debugging_ IPv4 maybe the modularisation, if Adam was clever, could
> help somewhat.

Definitely.  For debugging purposes, you don't need reference
counting: when the hacker says "remove it", you remove it. 8)

Cheers,
Rusty.
--
  Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.
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