Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:15:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:15:13 -0400 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:4618 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:15:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3D2E585F.2010302@zytor.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:17:35 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0rc3) Gecko/20020524 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andersen@codepoet.org CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI in 2.5 References: <20020712041320.GA2046@codepoet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1144 Lines: 32 Erik Andersen wrote: > On Thu Jul 11, 2002 at 05:27:11PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > >>Okay, I have suggested this before, and I haven't quite looked at this >>in detail, but I would again like to consider the following, >>especially given the changes in 2.5: >> >>Please consider deprecating or removing ide-floppy/ide-tape/ide-cdrom >>and treat all ATAPI devices as what they really are -- SCSI over IDE. >>It is a source of no ending confusion that a Linux system will not >>write CDs to an IDE CD-writer out of the box, for the simple reason >>that cdrecord needs access to the generic packet interface, which is >>only available in the nonstandard ide-scsi configuration. > > > cdrecord should use the CDROM_SEND_PACKET ioctl, then it would > work regardless, > Lovely. Let's make EACH APPLICATION support two disjoint APIs for no good reason. Got any other brilliant ideas? -hpa - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/