Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:41:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:41:23 -0400 Received: from codepoet.org ([166.70.99.138]:49595 "EHLO winder.codepoet.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:41:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:44:13 -0600 From: Erik Andersen To: "H. Peter Anvin" Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI in 2.5 Message-ID: <20020712044413.GA2436@codepoet.org> Reply-To: andersen@codepoet.org Mail-Followup-To: Erik Andersen , "H. Peter Anvin" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20020712041320.GA2046@codepoet.org> <3D2E585F.2010302@zytor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3D2E585F.2010302@zytor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.18-rmk7, Rebel-NetWinder(Intel StrongARM 110 rev 3), 185.95 BogoMips X-No-Junk-Mail: I do not want to get *any* junk mail. Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1603 Lines: 39 On Thu Jul 11, 2002 at 09:17:35PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Erik Andersen wrote: > >On Thu Jul 11, 2002 at 05:27:11PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > >>Okay, I have suggested this before, and I haven't quite looked at this > >>in detail, but I would again like to consider the following, > >>especially given the changes in 2.5: > >> > >>Please consider deprecating or removing ide-floppy/ide-tape/ide-cdrom > >>and treat all ATAPI devices as what they really are -- SCSI over IDE. > >>It is a source of no ending confusion that a Linux system will not > >>write CDs to an IDE CD-writer out of the box, for the simple reason > >>that cdrecord needs access to the generic packet interface, which is > >>only available in the nonstandard ide-scsi configuration. > > > > > >cdrecord should use the CDROM_SEND_PACKET ioctl, then it would > >work regardless, > > > > Lovely. Let's make EACH APPLICATION support two disjoint APIs for no > good reason. Lovely. Lets rip off a sarcastic answer without spending two seconds to think. Why would anybody need to support two APIs? The existing CDROM_SEND_PACKET ioctl is an ATAPI/SCSI pass through interface, and is sufficient to operate both IDE and SCSI cd writers. -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen http://codepoet-consulting.com/ --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/