Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:08:59 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:08:58 -0400 Received: from [195.63.194.11] ([195.63.194.11]:12037 "EHLO mail.stock-world.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:08:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3D2EC778.7000203@evision-ventures.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:11:36 +0200 From: Martin Dalecki User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; pl-PL; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020611 X-Accept-Language: pl, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "H. Peter Anvin" CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@transmeta.com Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI in 2.5 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1639 Lines: 46 U?ytkownik H. Peter Anvin napisa?: > Okay, I have suggested this before, and I haven't quite looked at this > in detail, but I would again like to consider the following, > especially given the changes in 2.5: > > Please consider deprecating or removing ide-floppy/ide-tape/ide-cdrom > and treat all ATAPI devices as what they really are -- SCSI over IDE. > It is a source of no ending confusion that a Linux system will not > write CDs to an IDE CD-writer out of the box, for the simple reason > that cdrecord needs access to the generic packet interface, which is > only available in the nonstandard ide-scsi configuration. > > There really seems to be no decent reason to treat ATAPI devices as > anything else. I understand the ide-* drivers contain some > workarounds for specific devices, but those really should be moved to > their respective SCSI drivers anyway -- after all, manufacturers > readily slap IDE or SCSI interfaces on the same devices anyway. > > Note that this is specific to ATAPI devices. ATA hard drives are > another matter entirely. Right now the "votes" go like the following: In favour of the scrap: 1. HPA. 2. Adam J. Richter. 3. Marcin Dalecki (basically due to give up on the idea of gradual unification). ... Against: 1. Bart?omiej ?o?nierkiewcz. I think we will need a vote from the "great decission maker". So Linus what's your opinnion please? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/