Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756556Ab1CAW0o (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:26:44 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:56729 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754013Ab1CAW0n (ORCPT ); Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:26:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] perf record: add time-of-day option From: Peter Zijlstra To: David Ahern Cc: linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, acme@ghostprotocols.net, mingo@elte.hu, fweisbec@gmail.com, paulus@samba.org, tglx@linutronix.de In-Reply-To: <4D6D22A7.6000000@cisco.com> References: <1298865151-23656-1-git-send-email-daahern@cisco.com> <1298865151-23656-4-git-send-email-daahern@cisco.com> <1298989751.5226.863.camel@laptop> <4D6D0438.2090901@cisco.com> <1298993714.5226.871.camel@laptop> <4D6D13C6.5020807@cisco.com> <1298995250.5226.882.camel@laptop> <4D6D1A4C.1090009@cisco.com> <1298997435.5226.890.camel@laptop> <4D6D22A7.6000000@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:28:09 +0100 Message-ID: <1299018489.5226.940.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1857 Lines: 51 On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 09:45 -0700, David Ahern wrote: > One example would be a system watchdog that decided for some reason or > another to force an event sample because of some event it detected. That would be a design error, there already is an event, use that. > > > > I'd much rather expose the whole > > local_clock()/perf_clock()/trace_clock() (should all be the same anyway) > > as a posix clock using CLOCK_TRACING or whatever would be an appropriate > > name. > > > > [ Since the whole thing is NMI safe it should be well possible to make a > > VDSO version as well. ] > > > > Anyway, once its visible as a posix clock you can sync up from > > userspace. And this clock is indeed wanted for other things too, like > > user-space tracing etc. > > > > And for some silly reason I sense a time trap here (pun intended) ..... > > So your pushback is: > 1. throw out the realtime-clock event patch, Well, no, you need continues samples to keep in sync, so having this is required [*]. > 2. add a new CLOCK_TRACING type to clock_gettime with VDSO hook, Right, that is something we need anyway at some point in time. > 3. and use a synthesized event from userspace for snapshotting > perf_clock to time-of-day -- similar to what I have now, but one that > will guarantee a time-of-day to perf_clock correlation (versus the > current one which hopes that perf_clock is the monotonic clock). I guess you could do that if we have full userspace tracing support, but it wouldn't need synthesized events, it would need a pure userspace event stream. Thing is, I really dislike the ioctl() trigger -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/