From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
Organization: wh0rd.org
To: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] The Linux Test Project has been released for FEBRUARY 2011.
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:49:26 -0500
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On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 14:45:38 Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Subrata Modak
>=20
> <subrata@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 13:06 +0100, Paolo Ciarrocchi wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Shubham Goyal
> >>=20
> >> <shubham@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >=20
> >> > The Linux Test Project test suite has been released for the month of
> >> > FEBRUARY 2011. Please see ltp/INSTALL file carefully, as there has
> >> > been multiple changes for building/installing the test suite after t=
he
> >> > recent changes in Makefile infrastructure.
> >>=20
> >> Wouldn't make sense to integrate this test suite in the kernel source
> >> tree?
> >=20
> > There was discussion like this some few years back. The idea was to get
> > some core tests from LTP to the kernel source tree. But then the idea
> > was dropped probably to avoid maintenance overhead ;-)
>=20
> Putting LTP in the kernel.org sources really doesn't make sense for
> the following reasons:
>=20
> 1. LTP isn't really tied to a single kernel release.
> 2. LTP isn't the only test project out there for Linux.
> 3. LTP has more stuff than it needs to have for testing out the kernel
> (well, it did more in the past before I started cleaning it up in the
> past couple of months).
> 4. Maintaining it will become a political bloodbath for both parties
> as Linux is loosely managed by Linus et all, and LTP has been largely
> developed by SGI and maintained by IBM and a few other parties like
> Fujitsu, Nokia, Redhat, etc.
> 5. Integrating LTP into Kbuild, etc would probably be non-trivial due
> to the size of LTP (but it might be easier after the Makefile
> restructuring I did a year and a half ago).

these are all very good reasons.  additional points:
 - ltp is pretty fsckin huge
 - ltp often times tests both sides of the userspace API/ABI -- between the=
=20
kernel and the C library, and the C library and end applications
=2Dmike

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