Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932230Ab1CCSap (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:30:45 -0500 Received: from charlotte.tuxdriver.com ([70.61.120.58]:34181 "EHLO smtp.tuxdriver.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758631Ab1CCSan (ORCPT ); Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:30:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 13:19:50 -0500 From: "John W. Linville" To: Rick Jones Cc: Dave =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=E4ht?= , sedat.dilek@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree Message-ID: <20110303181950.GD8969@tuxdriver.com> References: <20110225222210.GA3618@tuxdriver.com> <87fwr9jxya.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <8739n9ii7z.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <87tyfph2az.fsf@cruithne.co.teklibre.org> <1299176168.2157.14.camel@tardy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1299176168.2157.14.camel@tardy> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1082 Lines: 27 On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 10:16:08AM -0800, Rick Jones wrote: > > For wireless routers and cable home gateways especially, this research > > shows that the total un-managed buffers in your system should be less > > than 32. > > Would it be a good thing to start describing these queues not so much in > terms of packets but in terms of delay (or bandwidth X delay)? > > Constants tend to live longer than they should, no matter how noble in > birth. Yes, it probably would -- that would be more meaningful between different technologies and/or for technologies that might have variable latencies due to shared media or whatnot. Now, the question becomes what patches to propose to make that happen... :-) John -- John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/