Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:20:02 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:20:01 -0400 Received: from pc2-cwma1-5-cust12.swa.cable.ntl.com ([80.5.121.12]:22010 "EHLO irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:20:01 -0400 Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI in 2.5 From: Alan Cox To: Joerg Schilling Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200207122008.g6CK8rTc018445@burner.fokus.gmd.de> References: <200207122008.g6CK8rTc018445@burner.fokus.gmd.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 (1.0.3-6) Date: 12 Jul 2002 22:31:23 +0100 Message-Id: <1026509483.9958.20.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1503 Lines: 35 On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 21:08, Joerg Schilling wrote: > There are enough other OS that use a common ATAPI/SCSI driver concept and > do not have the problems you vagely name but never really describe. There are lots that fudge around and pretend scsi is the block layer when it is not. That sort of misses the point and slows down high end raid cards. > I believe it's OK to drop support for 10 year old hardware in case this > is no important hardware that _really_ needs continued support (like > e.g. 9 track trapes). We support and people continue to use large amounts of ten year old hardware. Thats why children at quite a few schools have access to computing through things like LTSP. There are people actively maintaining much of this stuff too. Some things such as ide tapes which have needs rather different to scsi tape are still being made and released in newer and larger forms. > ATA devices that are neither hard disks, nor do support ATAPI decently > are Y 1992 crap - so unless you like to have continued support for your > provate museum, what is the reason that you like to prevent a change > to a more usable driver interface? You still don't seem to understand the difference between a driver interface and a hardware layer. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/