Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:42:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:42:13 -0400 Received: from t4o53p38.telia.com ([62.20.229.158]:36224 "EHLO best.localdomain") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sat, 13 Jul 2002 15:42:12 -0400 To: Alan Cox Cc: Zwane Mwaikambo , Linux Kernel Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.19-rc1-ac3 References: <1026584861.13886.27.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> From: Peter Osterlund Date: 13 Jul 2002 21:43:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1026584861.13886.27.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1612 Lines: 35 Alan Cox writes: > On Sat, 2002-07-13 at 17:22, Peter Osterlund wrote: > > How much power savings can be expected in this situation? Is SpeedStep > > likely to give more power savings? > > Disregarding the fact that a large amount of your power consumption is > LCD backlight > Memory > Disk spinning > > the CPU (and to an extent thus the fan) part of the power consumption > reduces approximately linearly with the clock speed drop and also the > square of the voltage drop. There is an ever growing static component > with newer chips but even so its quite measurable done right. OK, but since frequency scaling saves power but not energy, unless you also lower the voltage, can you expect the battery to last longer with reduced frequency, assuming the computer is mostly idle? I guess the answer would be yes if any of the following is true: 1. apm idle mode consumes less power at lower frequencies. 2. The lower clock frequency means less work gets done, for example because window updates become less frequent when moving windows. 3. The cpu voltage is automatically reduced when the frequency is reduced. So, is any of the above true for x86 processors? Or are there other reasons to expect frequency scaling to increase battery run-time. -- Peter Osterlund - petero2@telia.com http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/