Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932315Ab1CINTq (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:19:46 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:42649 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756513Ab1CINTp convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Mar 2011 08:19:45 -0500 Subject: Re: [BUG] rebuild_sched_domains considered dangerous From: Peter Zijlstra To: Martin Schwidefsky Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , linuxppc-dev , Jesse Larrew In-Reply-To: <20110309141548.722e4f56@mschwide.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> References: <1299639487.22236.256.camel@pasglop> <1299665998.2308.2753.camel@twins> <1299670429.2308.2834.camel@twins> <20110309141548.722e4f56@mschwide.boeblingen.de.ibm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 14:19:29 +0100 Message-ID: <1299676769.2308.2944.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1699 Lines: 36 On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 14:15 +0100, Martin Schwidefsky wrote: > On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 12:33:49 +0100 > Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 11:19 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > > It appears that this corresponds to one CPU deciding to rebuild the > > > > sched domains. There's various reasons why that can happen, the typical > > > > one in our case is the new VPNH feature where the hypervisor informs us > > > > of a change in node affinity of our virtual processors. s390 has a > > > > similar feature and should be affected as well. > > > > > > Ahh, so that's triggering it :-), just curious, how often does the HV do > > > that to you? > > > > OK, so Ben told me on IRC this can happen quite frequently, to which I > > must ask WTF were you guys smoking? Flipping the CPU topology every time > > the HV scheduler does something funny is quite insane. And you did that > > without ever talking to the scheduler folks, not cool. > > > > That is of course aside from the fact that we have a real bug there that > > needs fixing, but really guys, WTF! > > Just for info, on s390 the topology change events are rather infrequent. > They do happen e.g. after an LPAR has been activated and the LPAR > hypervisor needs to reshuffle the CPUs of the different nodes. But if you don't also update the cpu->node memory mappings (which I think it near impossible) what good is it to change the scheduler topology? -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/