Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 05:09:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 05:09:46 -0400 Received: from cambot.suite224.net ([209.176.64.2]:13579 "EHLO suite224.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 14 Jul 2002 05:09:45 -0400 Message-ID: <001301c22b17$29261900$c0f583d0@pcs686> From: "Matthew D. Pitts" To: "Kernel Mailing List" References: <3D2EE7BA.8080805@evision-ventures.com> <3D313412.1030102@paulbristow.net> Subject: Re: IDE/ATAPI in 2.5 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 05:16:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1553 Lines: 33 Paul, et al, > So to me the problem is not to make everything work as SCSI, because > that simply isn't true for ide-floppy devices. They *nearly* work, so > you can get kludgy, "good enough for command line gurus" working with > ide-scsi, but there are some funnies. Does it really make sense to have > IDE/ATAPI kludges down in the SCSI tree? If they arn't SCSI, don't treat them like they are. > I much prefer Linus's suggestion of agreeing on the top level API. I > would like to see disks, and removeable media having a single unified > namespace and set of ioctls so that the different user-space programs > don't need to worry about if they are dealing with a SCSI, PPA, > ATAPI-ish, USB, 1394 or whatever comes next drive. Is that work? yes, > but it's also about communication and keeping things in the appropriate > place. Let me hide the horrible things ide-floppy has to do from > user-space, and if that means I/we have to completely re-write the > ioctls etc so be it. Amen to this... It is a very definite need. And if I may add my $0.02 US, a unified IDE/ATA/ATAPI API for Linux will make Linux more likely to take its place on the desktop. As it stands, I have to fiddle with things more than I like to to get my CD-RW to work with both CD-R and Packet Writing. Matthew D. Pitts. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/