Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:40:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:40:40 -0400 Received: from ns1.alcove-solutions.com ([212.155.209.139]:46520 "EHLO smtp-out.fr.alcove.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 08:40:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 14:43:31 +0200 From: Stelian Pop To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Sam Vilain , dax@gurulabs.com Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Message-ID: <20020716124331.GJ7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> Reply-To: Stelian Pop Mail-Followup-To: Stelian Pop , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Sam Vilain , dax@gurulabs.com References: <1026490866.5316.41.camel@thud> <1026679245.15054.9.camel@thud> <1026736251.13885.108.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20020715160357.GD442@clusterfs.com> <20020716081531.GD7955@tahoe.alcove-fr> <20020716122756.GD4576@merlin.emma.line.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020716122756.GD4576@merlin.emma.line.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.25i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 883 Lines: 24 On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 02:27:56PM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > > Come on, who REALLY expects to have consistent backups without > > either unmounting the filesystem or using some snapshot techniques ? > > The who uses [s|g]tar, cpio, afio, dsmc (Tivoli distributed storage > manager), ... > > Low-level snapshots don't do any good, they just freeze the "halfway > there" on-disk structure. But [s|g]tar, cpio, afio (don't know about dsmc) also freeze the "halfway there" data, but at the file level instead (application instead of filesystem)... Stelian. -- Stelian Pop Alcove - http://www.alcove.com - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/